tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8775078.post110280299316377541..comments2023-10-09T22:44:56.500-07:00Comments on WHAT enlightenment??!: The Code of SilenceUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8775078.post-1105040437708022832005-01-06T11:40:00.000-08:002005-01-06T11:40:00.000-08:00I am curious as well to hear more experiences from...I am curious as well to hear more experiences from those who spent time with Andrew in the community. Also - for those of you who did - what is your view of the Teaching itself? (aside from the teacher)though it may not be possible to separate the two. I have also heard that the teaching itself has changed quite a bit over the years and that things are now "much better and much different" from the old days. What are your thoughts on this?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8775078.post-1103125586420019862004-12-15T07:46:00.000-08:002004-12-15T07:46:00.000-08:00I've been surprised too at this "code of silence"....I've been surprised too at this "code of silence". I was mostly surprised at reading Andree's book at the mildness of the supposedly intense and shocking events. Andree left before the men's and women's saunas were turned into rooms designed to humiliate students. With huge blow ups of private letters to Andrew displayed, with his scathing comments attached. And debased caricatures of students, sometimes life size or more, depicting students as sexual dominatrixes or devils. Every student had to spend an hour a day in there in comtemplation of their evil natures,.....this part of the up to 6 hours of compulsory spiritual practice (prostrations, meditation, chanting etc) which did not include mens and women's meetings. Most students working a full time job and giving to there other duties, leaving around 4-5 hours for sleep. To say nothing of the practices or punishments of submerging in the nearby lake in the winter for up to an hour chanting until lips were so blue and bodies so frozen that it would take up to an hour in a hot shower to get back to a normal temperature.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com